Mods covered:
- Air Restrictor (AR) Removal
- Air Release Seal
- Plunger Padding
- Aftermarket Spring Replacement
- Deadspace Elimination
- Charging Handle Easy Release
Note: Some of the info here may also be repeated at the other Mod Guides.
>> Nerf Recon Mod Guide
>> Nerf Raider Mod Guide
Disclaimer: Modify at your own risk. Modifications may wear out or damage your blaster. Please be careful when using hobby tools!
:: AR Removal ::
Step 1: Disassemble your Longshot. Make sure to remove all the screws before detaching the casing. There are 21 screws in the main body and 7 screws in the shoulder stock.
Step 2: Take out the bolt sled assembly. Knock out the metal retaining pin that holds the bolt and bolt sled, this will separate the bolt from the bolt sled.
Step 3: Remove the plunger and just focus on the bolt assembly.
The bolt will still be inside the plunger casing (my example photo just shows a seperate bolt for clearer reference, don't remove it from the plunger casing).
Take a straight wire cutter and snap off the 3 plastic supports holding the AR structure.
Once the 3 supports are cut, the AR components will just drop out.
Here is what the bolt will look like with AR (top photo) and without AR (bottom photo).
:: Air Release Seal ::
For maximum air flow, cover the Longshot bolt's air release. You can use tape or just fill it with epoxy glue.
:: Plunger Padding ::
Without the AR, there is no air buffering system to cushion the plunger on bolt impact.
This results in very high wear and tear on the plunger and bolt casing, by both normal firing and dry firing. Due to repeated direct impact on the bolt (hence the loud cracking sound during firing). In time, the bolt and plunger may become damaged.
Therefore, padding should be applied to the plunger to help cushion the impact.
In the following photo, i simply attached custom shaped soft foam bumper padding to the base of the plunger. You can try using other cushioning materials too, just make sure the padding can compress well and covers up to the edges of the plunger base.
Note that the bolt clearance in the Longshot bolt casing is quite limited, therefore it is recommended to trim the padding thinner so that it does not interfere with the bolt travel when loading/unloading clips.
:: Aftermarket Spring Replacement ::
One way to increase the speed of air delivery through the bolt is to replace the stock spring with a stronger aftermarket spring.
There are many different springs with different sizes and spring force ratings. Springs can be sourced from your local spring supply shops. Spring choice will depend on your usage.
The examples below show a stock spring (top photo) vs. an aftermarket spring (middle photo) vs. a stock spring with aftermarket spring (bottom photo).
Stronger springs are usually made of thicker wires. Adjustments may have to be done as required for smooth firing operation.
Depending on the strength of the spring used, extra catch springs may also need to be added to hold the increased tension.
Note that a stronger spring will require more effort to prime the blaster for each shot, and the impact of the plunger on the bolt and overall stress on the blaster casing is also much greater. It'll be important to account for these factors when doing a spring replacement.
:: Deadspace Elimination ::
There is a volume of empty space within the plunger casing. For more efficient air flow, it is recommended to fill up that space to eliminate the deadspace. In this example, i use foam material shaped to fill that space.
:: Priming Handle Easy Release ::
Trim the Longshot priming handle internal catch so that it'll be easy to attach and detach it anytime for blaster maintenance and future mods.
:: Sample Test Fire Data ::
PTG: Parallel-To-Ground (Shoulder height, no elevation)
ATG: Angled-To-Ground (Aimed higher, 30 degrees elevation)
Distance is measured at where the dart lands (Average of 6 darts).
Stock Longshot
PTG = 25 ft
ATG = 35 ft
Modded Longshot (AR Removal & 14kg Load Aftermarket Spring)
PTG = 70 ft
ATG = 90 ft
Note that the test was done indoors with customized foam darts. The results are sample estimates for reference (your results may differ depending on materials and mod techniques used).
PTG = 70 ft
ATG = 90 ft
Note that the test was done indoors with customized foam darts. The results are sample estimates for reference (your results may differ depending on materials and mod techniques used).
hi i added a nite finder spring to my longshot, but whenever i put a magazine into the gun, it always gets stuck.And once i remove the nite finder spring, it works fine again.Why is this so? thanks
ReplyDeleteHmmm, thats odd... the Nite Finder spring should be usable in the Longshot. Perhaps its somehow not compressing fully to allow the bolt to be pulled backwards far enough, this would result in magazine jams. Check its alignment.
ReplyDeleteAlso make sure when you screw back the plunger base to hold the spring, the joint has to connect properly. If it is not connected properly, that might also affect the loading and unloading of magazines.
I just did these modifications and I love the performance from my LS now! The only problem I have now is seeing how much more innacurate those Streamline darts get with the additional power behind them!
ReplyDeleteYeah, the host of "upgrades" really do work wonders for it, i'm sure your Longshot is now more worthy of its namesake!
ReplyDeleteWith more power propelling the foam darts, it becomes even more important to use foam darts that are in perfect shape and condition, just some slight damage and it'll affect the distance and accuracy greatly.
Therefore try to ensure you use perfect foam darts for good distance and accuracy. :)
i temepered the spring so now it is 6in i i hit it with a blow torch so it would stay 6in it was five and a half befor i think i also pluged up that hole those to things did wonders all ready i imagine wat i would be like with those other mods im eventually going to work on getting those in the gun but right now mine shoots about 49 feet maybe longer
ReplyDeleteI wonder if it would be possible to make or mod darts to have stabilizing fins. You have any thoughts on this?
ReplyDeleteI guess you could try... though with fins sticking out of the dart body, they wouldn't be able to fit into the enclosed barrels of most blasters.
ReplyDeleteTo use darts with fins, you'd need to have blasters which load darts over dart posts instead of within barrels.
how much of a diffrence dose it make to plug up that air thing on the plunger
ReplyDeleteQuite abit... after AR and spring mods done, i've noticed a noticable 8-9 ft difference in range with and without plugging up that air release hole in the bolt.
ReplyDeleteand could i use like a regular nerf dart to fill up that empty space in the plunger cus you never mentioned what diameter foam you were using
ReplyDeletewhat is the diameter of the foam that you put in the plunger would an old nerf dart work
ReplyDeleteFor the plunger padding, i simply used a few 20mm diameter dense foam pads and stuck them close to the edges.
ReplyDeleteFor the dead space elimination, i used a spare piece of 40mm foam backer rod with hollow center and trimmed it to fit the deadspace in the bolt section.
You could use any foam or filler material to fill up the dead space, using nerf dart foam to fill up the space is also possible too.
where do you get the aftermarket springs and all that
ReplyDeleteI get my aftermarket springs from various hardware stores and spring manufacturers around my area.
ReplyDeleteJust do an online or business directory check on such companies around your area, give them a call and visit them to check out what springs they have.
Remember to bring along your stock springs for comparison to ensure that you get aftermarket springs which can properly fit your blasters.
For the other modding materials, i just get them from hardware stores. :)
What section of the hardware store am I likely to find the foam pads you use for cushioning?
ReplyDeleteAlso, how thin do you recommend trimming them?
Go to the household section, the soft foam/rubber pads are usually used for sound dampening of doors and cupboards.
ReplyDeleteThe pads in my modded Longshot are trimmed to around 2mm thick, but since there are many different brands of soft foam/rubber pads (with different compression properties), you'll have to trim and test yours to find the right balance and fit.
What happens if they don't compress enough? Will the dart not load properly or something like that?
ReplyDeleteIf the padding does not compress flat enough, you'll find that the bolt will not be able to be pulled backwards far enough, this will restrict the loading of a magazine.
ReplyDeleteHave you guys done barrel replacements yet? Or have gone all out and did an angel breach? From what I've seen, you guys have awesome paintjobs on your guns, but have only done limited mods and barrel replacements. Meh, probably not looking hard enough.
ReplyDeleteYup, there are a few modders over that the NerfSG forums testing out various alternative barrel and breech designs. You can check with the members there. :)
ReplyDeleteHi, I'm completely new to the whole modding scene, but I am really interested in the Longshot...it's just cool. I'm not planning on going into any major modifications besides for cosmetic (paintjobs and such), but I would like to make the Longshot more of a long shot but without changing the spring.
ReplyDeleteWould I still get a significant increase on my shooting range with a removal of the Air Restricter (as well as sealing the air gaps) but without replacing the spring? Thank you muchly.
Well, if you just remove the AR in the Longshot while keeping the stock spring intact, you'd probably see around 10-15 ft increase in firing distance but nothing significant.
ReplyDeleteThe real improvements appear when stronger springs are used, thats what gives the Longshot its power and hence its popularity amongst modders.
Hey, I am new to the mod scene, and I went hog wild on purchasing guns to see how mods worked in other guns, my first being the Longshot. After replacing the springs in 2 Mavericks, I found that you can fit the 2 stock Maverick springs over the plunger base and they do not get entangled in the stock Longshot spring. It did improve the distance the Longshot fires (about 20') but you can definitely hear the bolt slamming against the housing. Thanks for the tutorial on the plunger padding.
ReplyDeletei have the revolver nerf gun a d i put a smaller spring in the old sprig to give it more power but for some reason it wont latch when i cock the gun. help please?
ReplyDeleteYou mean the Nerf Maverick?
ReplyDeleteMaybe the 2nd spring you used is abit longer when compressed, so it prevents the plunger to be pulled backwards far enough for the trigger catch to latch properly.
Or maybe you can also add a stronger spring to the trigger catch itself, to give it more strength to hold the plunger.
you can put a straw in the plunger and use foam
ReplyDeletefor it to stay on, one guy did it on his nerf maverick and he did a few other things to it.
heres a link to his mod:http://nerfhaven.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5673. paste it on
I did all the mods except the spring, and i half-assed the dead-space removal but my LS has no accuracy. The darts go all over the place. any idea as to why?
ReplyDeleteIn my experience, accuracy is very highly dependent on the kind of foam darts used.
ReplyDeleteStock streamline darts are okay for stock blasters, but once a blaster is modded to produce more power, the stock streamline darts would tend to spiral or swerve out of control.
A method to achieve accuracy is to customise your dart weight balance (ie. either heavier or lighter tips), or look at custom converting or making new foam darts to suit your blaster.
For example, i use 3rd party brand foam darts with suction tips which i convert into a flat tip, then add a foam pad to the tip to balance the weight and cushion impact. I tried many different combinations and that design seemed to work perfectly with my modded Longshot, such that i can consistantly aim directly and hit a basketball sized target at 40-50ft.
Experiment with different dart tips and foam, and test which combination works best for your blaster, every blaster has a different ideal dart weight balance. :)
Whats the easiest thing to do, mod the gun, or mod either dart-tag or streamline?
ReplyDeleteWell, you'd only need to mod a blaster once, while customising darts needs calibration and testing, and its a continuous task as darts will naturally wear out or are lost during games and thus require replacement.
ReplyDeleteAnyways, you'll need to do both to achieve the best results. :)
Mine will arrive soon, but after all the talk about darts...
ReplyDeleteI used caulk instead of the foam (you used). Do you think I will get the same results?
ReplyDeleteFor the deadspace elimination? Yup, as long as your filler material can fill up the excess space in the plunger casing, it should work well too.
ReplyDeleteWhat are the 3rd Party darts you stated in a previous post?
ReplyDeleteThe 3rd party foam dart brand I mentioned is called "SDL", it's similiar to Nerf foam darts in design and dimension, but the overall weight of the foam is slightly lighter.
ReplyDeleteDoes adding a longer barrel such as a longshot front gun barrel increase the guns accuracy?
ReplyDeletehow do i take off the charging handle?
ReplyDeleteColin,
ReplyDeleteIn my blaster tests, I did notice that attaching an additional barrel extension seems to help to increase the accuracy, but I also noticed a decrease in range too, possibly due to the additional friction and air resistance within the barrel extension.
Brett,
ReplyDeleteTo remove the Longshot charging handle, use a claw hammer or flat head screwdriver to wedge between the handle and casing. Carefully pry them apart, use a cloth to cushion against the casing to help prevent any scratches.
Excellent writeup, I'll definitely be doing this as soon as I get my longshot. Two questions:
ReplyDelete1.) When you removed the AR, you left that bar in the middle of the bolt. Is this intentional? (I mean, did taking it out give not enough of a range boost to make it worth the trouble?)
2.) After a bit of time, I might consider doing a barrel replacement on my longshot. Usually people do Angel breeches in a brass barrel, but I've heard that stock streamline darts don't fit (and anyway, most of the people using a brass breech use Stefans anyway). Do you know what barrel material/size will enable me to use the stock darts?
Really cool site, I've bookmarked your Recon and Raider pages as well, and I'll be checking back!
kzuk,
ReplyDeleteYou can leave the dart post in the bolt or remove it. Though i've tested both configurations and found that leaving the dart post intact seems to channel air abit better when using stock darts or hollowed foam stefans.
But if you want to use solid foam stefans, then the dart post will need to be removed to fit those darts. So its your choice.
For barrel replacement in general, pipe fit will depend on the darts you plan to use (stefan or stock) and the right combination will also depend on the power of your modded Longshot. There are many modding variations, so you'll just need to do some testing to see what works best for your blaster and darts.
thanks! yeah i saw your earlier post, will definitely start workin on modding the darts. i guess i was just wondering if there was anything else that i could do either to the gun itself or things to keep in mind while using the gun to optimize accuracy in shots.
ReplyDeleteOh, and where would one find rubber refil sticks? is that just a tiny piece of rubber you're adding to the tip of the dart? how are you attaching them to the tips?
The rubber/eraser refill sticks? Those are usually packed in 12cm length sticks and stocked at stationary shops.
ReplyDeleteCut them to the required lengths, remove the original stock tips and they'll slot perfectly into the front hollow of the darts. Use any good hobby glue (ie. UHU or hotglue) to attach them to the tips. Experiment with different lengths to test the ideal weights for your dart tips.
Remember to "cap" the tips with a soft material like soft foam pads (can get from hardware stores) so that it absorbs the added impact. It'll help prevent the combination of more powerful blasters and heavier tip darts from causing welts or bruises during Nerf games. :)
Awesome! Thanks SG, I appreciate all your feedback! Will def pick up some eraser refills and test the different lengths, might also leave some without "caps" to increase the challenge level in games =).
ReplyDeleteI also was wondering about adding additional springs as opposed to a single replacement to a blaster. I picked up a Longstrike i was lucky enough to find in a shop, but unfortunately the stock spring that came with it must've just a been a lousy one, out of the box, can barely get up to 10 ft (really "impotent" shots). So, I added a spring from a TP dispenser stem which increased the rangebut only about 10 ft, WITHOUT the barrel ext. WITH the barrel ext, it can only barely reach 15 or so ft total. I was really expecting it to go much farther. My question, I'm thinking of adding another spring and was wondering if there would there be anything wrong with having three springs in there? Or would you advise to just find a spring with more tension (thicker) and replace the original? Thanks again for your help!
Yes, you can use multiple springs if they can all fit properly into the plunger, or just a single strong spring.
ReplyDeleteSpring selection and combinations will depend on how much additional power you want for your blaster... and how much arm strength you have to prime it. :)
May I know where are the local spring shops? Thanks
ReplyDeleteYou can find information on local spring manufacturers at the NerfSG forum, along with local sources for modification materials.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nerfsg.com
You can also check with local forum members who have researched and tested the most suitable aftermarket springs for modding blasters, those aftermarket springs can be purchased at the trading section too.
Bro Thanks alot..
ReplyDeleteCan a nerf maverick spring be used or will the gun break easily?
ReplyDeleteWell, the Maverick spring could also be used but note that it is half the length of a Longshot spring, so you'd need 2 Maverick springs positioned in line to fit within the plunger casing.
ReplyDeleteInstalling loose fitting springs usually tend to cause a fair bit of rattling though, so you'd probably have to find a way to secure the springs properly within the plunger casing for a secure fit.
Anyways, try it out and see how it works out for you, perhaps share your results here too. :)
I was wondering if shoe rubber could work to stop the plunger bolt, i tryed using high density foam but it didn't work
ReplyDeleteIts worth a try... main thing is to make sure the padding you use can absorb the plunger impacts and yet compress flat enough to allow full unrestricted movement of the bolt.
ReplyDeleteI just did the power mods that you've provided here with astounding success (AR removal and spring addition) but I couldn't figure out that damn padding... just too thick to allow the bolt to engage.
ReplyDeleteI was also thinking, with the AR removed and no dead space mod, the bolt has very little contact with the chamber, maybe one or two mm at the most... do you think adding the dead space mod is necessary to make use of the padding?
The longshot plunger padding usually requires some trimming to get the right thickness to still allow the bolt to be pulled back enough for loading/unloading of clips.
ReplyDeleteIf the material you are using for the dead space elimination is thick enough to provide sufficient cushioning for the plunger when it impacts against the bolt, then i guess that could also serve as a form of padding too.
i was done unscrewing about all the screws when i noticed that the reloading thing(something to do with cocking mechanism) is blocking me from opening it. I tried wedging it out but i was afraid it would break. What should i do?
ReplyDeleteThe orange priming handle?
ReplyDeleteTo remove it, simply use a large flat-head screw driver, wedge it in between the priming handle and casing (put some cloth in between to help prevent scratches), then carefully pry it out.
Once removed, remember to do the "Priming Handle Easy Release" mod as shown in my mod guide, it'll make it much earier to attach and detach the handle for future blaster modding or maintainence. :)
i have a longshot but i dont have any of the padding things to put on the plunger, is there another way to remove the AR without having to use plunger padding? thanks
ReplyDeleteSniperWolf360,
ReplyDeleteWell, if you don't put any padding on the plunger after the ARs are removed, that part will suffer heavy direct impacts and stress. In time that would cause damage and breakage to the plunger.
So its highly recommended to put padding on the plunger.
Hi SG,
ReplyDeleteIs it helpful to add CPVC or brass/aluminum tubing to the barrel to reduce dead space in the barrel?
is it possible to use a couple layers of duck tape instead of the padding?
ReplyDeleteYinan,
ReplyDeleteInstalling pvc or brass/aluminium tubes into the barrel can be done, but results will depend on using the right tube internal diameter to match your foam darts and blaster power.
In addition, if its not part of a fully air-tight breech system, the replaced barrel may not work optimally due to air loss, friction and back-pressure. You can test it out to see what works for your blaster.
Just a heads-up, i'll be posting a mod guide for a complete air-tight brass breech system for the Longshot soon. Stay tuned for it. :)
SniperWolf360,
ReplyDeleteI guess its possible to use layers of duct tape as padding, but its not an effective way to cushioning the plunger impact.
You need a padding material that is dense yet soft enough to be able to compress to very thin to absorb the impact and allow the bolt to be pull backwards enough to load/unload clips.
Try to get the soft rubber/foam pads that are used for sound dampening or padding for furniture (can be found at most hardware stores), those are much more suitable for plunger padding.
Hey again SG,
ReplyDeleteHow thick should the rubber/padding be so that it doesn't intrude on loading of the clip?
Yinan,
ReplyDeleteDue to the different density and compression properties of foam/rubber pads, the ideal thickness of the plunger padding used will depend on your own testing and trimming process.
Just keep adjusting the padding thickness and testing it until everything works smoothly and properly.
Can i ask a question?If i just want to put double string,can i just put double string without putting the padding and the air release seal?
ReplyDeleteyouknowwho,
ReplyDeleteAre you also going to remove the Air Restrictor (AR)? 'cos thats the most essential mod step to do or else even with stronger springs the air flow will still be restricted, resulting in very limited performance increase.
Even if for some odd reason you don't remove the AR and just put stronger springs, the plunger impact on the bolt will still be higher, so it is still recommended to put padding to protect the parts anyways.
Sealing the air release hole is a minor step, but a quick and simple one, so its worth doing as part of the full modification process.
hey, just a question but what spring did you use for this mod? i'm concerned that some springs might make it too hard to cock or not latch on. I dont know much about springs but are there any particular brands, materials or ratings that you would suggest?
ReplyDeleteHey Sg,Are there any store in Causeway Point or somewhere near there that sells Foam Backer Rod and Spring suitable for modding Longshot?
ReplyDeletejason,
ReplyDeleteI currently use 14kg aftermarket industrial springs in my Longshots. My springs are sourced from various industrial spring manufacturers.
Sping choice will depend on the user's strength, so it'll be good to try out different spring strengths to find the most suitable one for you.
For more information on the various locally sourced aftermarket springs that we have tried and tested to work on Nerf blasters, check the NerfSG forum, lots of discussions on springs and modification techniques there. :)
youknowwho,
ReplyDeleteFor Foam Backer Rod (FBR), one of the places you can find them locally is at a shop called Ban Hoe Lee Hardware at Rochor Centre, they sell 13mm diameter FBR.
You can find alot more information on sources of FBR and Springs and the latest modding techniques at the NerfSG forum.
Hey SGNerf,If i want to put another spring,can i use another longshot spring instead?Thanks bro.
ReplyDeleteyouknowwho,
ReplyDeleteBoth springs should still fit, but you'll have to do a test to make sure that 2 springs of the exact same dimension don't take up more space in the plunger casing when compressed and end up blocking the full travel of the plunger rod.
i modded my longshot and the cocking mechanism seems a little stuck though i xan still cock it
ReplyDeleteI'm really stumped on getting the priming handle off. I've put a significant amount of force under it with the claw end of a hammer and it doesn't budge. How is this thing attached? My gun is the yellow and orange colored one and most of the mods I see have pictures of the blue one. Is there a difference?
ReplyDeleteShining Fang,
ReplyDeleteThere is no difference between the Yellow and Blue Longshot priming handle designs.
To remove it, simply use a large flat-head screw driver, wedge it in between the priming handle and casing (put some cloth in between to help prevent scratches), then carefully pry it out.
If it doesn't budge, just use abit more force to seperate the charging handle, it can sometimes take abit of effort to do.
i added a night fire spring and checked the allignment 5 different times and i cannot get my gun to cock i matched the internals with the picurtes mutiple times and still no luck the jam door does not close all the way and the bolt sled is a little bent but it does not seem to be the problem i preformed al the other modifications in your blog is there any help you can give me
ReplyDeletestephenfels,
ReplyDeleteCheck that all the internal components are installed and aligned properly.
Try to move your bolt sled in a priming action while the casing is open, it should be able to move smoothly to and fro. If not, then your bolt sled or plunger is probably still not aligned properly in the casing.
Keep testing and adjusting until everything moves smoothly.
alright im afraid my bolt sled being bent might have to do with the alignment issues
ReplyDeleteThx so much excellent mod it worked I hesitantto put the nite finder spring in considering my breach is alrdy bent and cracked I'm not sure if it can handle it. Wat wud u recomend
ReplyDeletestephenfels,
ReplyDeleteBefore you replace or add-in stronger springs, make sure all your components are working properly.
Especially with the bolt sled and breech, these components are the main parts that will be taking the most stress from stronger springs. Weakened components will have a much higher chance of breaking in these situations.
Therefore, do ensure they're all in good working condition before doing the mods.
http://nerfhaven.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15921 this is a tutorial on how to streghthen your longshot bolt sled i did not make this and i am taking to credit for it
ReplyDeleteDo u a link to make the darts that work in the modified ls and do u kno if they are on eBay
ReplyDeletestephenfels,
ReplyDeleteYou mean the 3rd party darts that i customise for my modded blasters?
They are from an off-brand called SDL. Compared to Nerf darts, SDL darts use foam that is lighter in weight and are slightly larger in outer diameter.
Here are some product links from a local hobby store in SG:
http://black-tactical.com/store/replica-guns-foam-gun-parts-c-10_30/darts-suction-capped-30pcs-p-164
http://black-tactical.com/store/replica-guns-foam-gun-parts-c-10_30/darts-velcro-tipped-30pcs-p-165
Thx you very much but wudlnt they swerve more if they are lighter
ReplyDeleteYes it said on the site that they were lighter wasn't the idea to had more wieght
ReplyDeletestephenfels,
ReplyDeleteFor accuracy and distance, you'd want only the tip to be weighted, the rest of the foam body acts more like a aerodynamic guide for the dart.
The key to ideal dart weight balance is a light foam body with a weighted tip.
The ideal weight of the tip would depend on the power of your blaster, usually the more powerful it is, the heavier the tip can be.
Finding the right weight balance will require lots of dart testing with your particular blaster, there is no "best" dart. Every modded blaster's customised darts are different.
O ok sry for my noobishness thx so much last questio how wud u wieght the suction cup darts and do u have to mod the blaster to shoot them
ReplyDeletestephenfels,
ReplyDeleteDart customisation is a very popular topic over at the NerfSG forum, alot of R&D has been done on this subject by members and most of the local players now use their own specially customised darts at our regular Nerf games.
Customised darts can achieve much higher accuracy and distance compared to stock darts, especially when fired from modded blasters.
Here is an example of a dart customisation method posted by SixShot, one of our senior NerfSG forum members:
"Sabot" SDL Darts (SSD)
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t70/dragonleo76/DartMaking2.jpg
The rubber sticks are eraser pen refills, usually found that most stationary stores.
The interesting feature about the "Sabot" dart customisation method is that modders can vary the lengths of the rubber stick tips to increase or decrease the tip weights and balance to suit their modded blasters.
Eraser pen refills are soft materials, so its still safe even if the tips somehow dislodge from the foam body during mid-flight.
Darts that are customised using such methods can be used in all blasters as per normal without requiring additional blaster modification.
Thx for everything u have been extremely helpful
ReplyDeleteWhat are the dimensions of the aftermarket spring?
ReplyDeleteHoward,
ReplyDeleteAftermarket springs should have similiar dimensions to the stock spring for the best fit.
Springs that are slightly narrower or shorter can still be used, just need to do some adjustments to make sure they fit properly.
The best way to find out is to measure it or just bring your original stock spring along to the spring supply stores to match the dimensions.
what difference does it make if u seal the air release hole?
ReplyDeleteDo u kno where I can buy sdl darts in the us
ReplyDeleteFor the deadspace elimination, did you glue the foam in or is it held in place when the gun is reassembled?
ReplyDeleteJPmod,
ReplyDeleteSealing the air release hole provides a small bit of improvement in the power and range, i measured 4-5 ft difference in range with and without the sealing of the hole.
Its a very simple step in the modding process anyways, so might as well just do it to maximise the efficiency of the air flow.
stephenfels,
ReplyDeleteI've no idea where those 3rd-party darts could be found in the states though. I guess you'd just have to keep a lookout around the smaller stores to find such items.
tworow2,
ReplyDeleteThe foam piece that i used for the deadspace elimination is just tightly wedged into the space, for this example i didn't glue it in.
You could glue it in for a more secure fit though.
Yes black tactical is a greatsigt but the shipping is ridiculud for in the states
ReplyDeleteCould i use felt pads instead of rubber pads to pad the plunger?
ReplyDeleteDeborah,
ReplyDeleteI've found that felt pads can't compress flat enough and that sometimes tends to block the bolt from being fully pulled back for proper loading and unloading of clips. You can try and see if it works for you though.
I'd recommend the dense rubber/foam pads which can compress very flat, those would be much better materials to use to pad the plunger.
Did you use the same aftermarket spring that you used in the Raider mod for this mod?
ReplyDeleteIf not could you give me a link to where you bought the aftermarket spring?
Howard,
ReplyDeleteNope, the Longshot uses different springs from a Raider.
Most of my aftermarket springs are custom-made from various local spring manufacturers in Singapore, so they wouldn't be avaliable from websites or in stores.
You can check directly with the spring manufacturers around your area, they should be able to customise aftermarket springs to fit your blasters too.
Could you put a Raider spring in the Longshot?
ReplyDeleteWhat is the highest wire diameter to use with the Longshot without breaking?
ReplyDeleteAlso what did you use for the dead space removal?
Howard,
ReplyDeleteThe Raider spring could be put into a Longshot, but its much shorter, so it'll tend to rattle around in the plunger casing and would be less efficient, you could try adding a spacer in to make it fit better.
I currently use a customised aftermarket spring with a outer diameter of 28mm, a wire thickness of approx. 2mm, and a spring strength of around 14+ kg. I've found it to be a nice combination of power yet still manageble enough for me to prime properly.
I have tested using many other springs with larger wire thickness and higher spring strength too, but those were either too difficult to prime or tend to damage the internal parts.
For deadspace removal, i simply use a section of hollow 1.25" FBR cut to shape and wedged into the space.
What kind of improvement can I expect with a Nitefinder spring, if you know? It's about all I have access to where I am.
ReplyDeleteHow long is the aftermarket spring?
ReplyDeletetworow2,
ReplyDeleteThe Nite Finder stock spring is abit too short for the Longshot plunger and its not strong either. I guess if you use it the performance increase wouldn't be significant.
Try to see if you can get a Big Bad Bow stock spring instead, it can fit nicely in Longshot plungers using the double spring method and provides good performance increases.
Howard,
ReplyDeleteAftermarket springs should match the original stock springs in length. For Longshots, springs should be around 5 inches in length.
should i use one spring only?cuz i'm afraid that the 2 springs might create alot of pressure and the whole gun will spoil.And could i use 20mm diameter soft rubber pads for the base of the plunger?and could i use hot glue to occupy the empty space within the plunger casing?
ReplyDeleteweaponhazard,
ReplyDeleteWell, the choice of spring strength and number of springs will depend on your own preference, so just select the combination thats suitable for your usage.
Yes, you can use the 20mm diameter soft rubber pads to cushion the plunger.
And yes, you can use hotglue to fill up the deadspace in the plunger casing, though you'll have to see if you have sufficient access to the plunger space to do the hotglue filling method.
thanx for the info,and i'm going to order a twin tek 10 and fbr,but i don't know how to do multiple shipping,as in i ship the two items at the same time.
ReplyDeleteweaponhazard,
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure what you are asking... but if you are ordering from an online merchant, just place the orders and they will do the rest for you.
Hi SG Nerf,
ReplyDeleteHow did you remove the bolt casing from the bolt? (The Pictures in step #3)
Thanks!
richard,
ReplyDeleteYes, in that particular photo the bolt is removed from the plunger casing for easier reference.
Note that the bolt will need to be cut into two pieces to remove it, so don't remove the bolt. I had a seperate spare broken bolt to use as a demo, just for a clearer example. :)
I'm wondering if the modded darts will work with the round barrel clips that come with the raider. Also will haveing a stronger spring put wear on the orange cocking mechanism(forgot the name of it)? Because on the one in the pictures they have the front pump mod which I imagine putss equal force on both sides as opposed to just one side.
ReplyDeleteOkay, im trying to take apart my Longshot but the bolt wont come apart. I have tried using a screwdriver to pry it apart and just pulling on the two parts but they just wont budge.
ReplyDeleteSeth,
ReplyDeleteIf the modded or customised foam darts still follow similiar dimensions to stock foam darts, they should be able to be used in all standard clips and drum magazines.
Using a stronger aftermarket spring will put more stress on all the components, and there will naturally be higher wear and tear.
One of the methods i used to reduce the uneven stress on the bolt sled is to custom-build a polycarbonate shotgun grip for my modded Longshots, it becomes much more ergonomic to use and increases rate-of-fire (RoF) too.
I'll post up a guide soon on how i built my custom-built polycarbonate shotgun grips.
Satee Jon,
ReplyDeleteSteadily increase the strength you put in when prying apart the charging handle, the 2 parts will eventually detach.
what effect would these mods have if the air restrictor was not removed?
ReplyDeleteWhat type of device do i use? Or do i just use my hands? The charging handle is the only thing holding me back.
ReplyDeleteHunterer,
ReplyDeleteIf the Air Restrictor (AR) is not removed, the overall performance increase would be much less, simply because the air-flow is still restricted.
Satee Jon,
ReplyDeleteUse a flat-head screwdriver, wedge it between the charging handle and the blaster casing (put a layer of cloth in between to prevent scratches), then carefully pry the charging handle out.
What prevents the charging handle from coming apart? I put it together myself, it shouldn't be that hard. Several people have tried with both the flathead screwdriver and their bare hands. I need a king arthur to pry the sword from the stone!
ReplyDeleteSatee Jon,
ReplyDeleteIts just a four-pronged plastic catch that secures the charging handle together, you can spot it in the disassembled charging handle photo in my mod guide.
Yes, it can sometimes require a fair bit of strength to pry apart the charging handle. Just apply increasing strength steadily, and once enough force is applied, the charging handle will pop out.
I just did everytthing on here, and it makes the really loud noise. i used some old rags as cushionging, but im concerned if its gonna break or not. help?
ReplyDeleteRyan,
ReplyDeleteAs mentioned in my mod guide, after the removal of the Air Restrictors (AR), the blaster will exhibit a loud cracking sound when fired, as there are no more ARs to cushion the plunger impact on the bolt.
Therefore, it is highly recommended to apply additional padding to the plunger head.
Old rags can be used, but it'll be better if you can use proper impact absorbing padding. Try finding suitable soft foam padding at the hardware stores in your area.
if i wanted to do a barrel replacement would i want to leave some space around the dart (as is the case when stock) or would i want to make it air tight?
ReplyDeletecheers
Ian,
ReplyDeleteWell, if you are just doing a simple direct barrel replacement (not an air-tight brass breech), then it'll be good to allow some space around the dart because the dart would already be losing power straight after leaving the bolt, so any friction against the barrel wall will slow it down.
On the other hand, air-tight brass breeches work by building air pressure behind the foam dart to accelerate it all the way through until the dart exits from the barrel, hence the need for an exact barrel and dart fit.
How do I remove the bolt assembly from the shell of the gun? I don't get how to take out the bolt assembly (the space left between Step 1 and 2 on the AR Removal guide).
ReplyDeleteJulian,
ReplyDeleteMake sure all the screws are removed and the surrounding components are not blocking it, then you can seperate the bolt assembly from the casing.
Ah, so that's my problem. I'll check for any blocking components.
ReplyDeleteHi there, I have two quick questions
ReplyDelete1) Do the Recon Barrels connect to the Back half (the REAL HALF) of the Longshot without any modification? Essentially replacing the Pistol half.
and
2) will the dvd/cd stack 'separator' foam pads make a good AR foam insert?
(you know, the little pads that come in the cylindrical cases of 50 CDs or DVDs from your local Supermarket?)
Jordysadrummer,
ReplyDeleteYup, the Recon front barrel can be attached to the Longshot main blaster.
In general, most N-Strike "CS" series blaster accessories and components are interchangable.
The foam ring pads from CD spindle casings that you mentioned can also be used for plunger padding too, try them out with a few layers and see if it works well for you.
I have a question. I attempted to modify my nerf longshot. Sometimes it shoots pretty hard, but after aboiut 1-2 shots its all duds. The duds just fall out of the barrel and do nothing. It feels like when I pull the bolt back theres no pressure When I load. I have a random metal bar that looks like the one attaching the part near the clip. Does that metal bar have anything to do with the lack of range?
ReplyDeleteChris,
ReplyDeleteWithout a photo showing the internals of your modded Longshot, i can't see where the problem could be.
Perhaps you can take a few photos of the internals and upload to a photo sharing site (ie. photobucket or flickr), then post another comment here with links to them. So that i can see if i can detect the issue.
Btw, the metal bar you mentioned seems to be the metal pin that is required to attach the bolt to the bolt sled.
It has to be installed properly so that the bolt doesn't detach from the bolt sled during priming.
Would it still increase performance of the gun significantly if I just put a stronger spring in it and do not take out the AR? And would i still have to put plunger padding on the plunger?
ReplyDeleteJohn,
ReplyDeleteWell, if you add in a stronger spring but still leave the AR intact, there would still be some performance improvement, but the improvement will be much less because the air flow is still restricted.
Plunger padding is recommended anytime you modify the plunger internals for more power, its a way to ensure the components can cushion the higher impacts.
What size is the spring in the middle of the picture with the springs? Can you tell me what size the spring is in the bottom after market spring? And which works better, the stock and after market spring or just the after market spring?
ReplyDeleteJohn,
ReplyDeleteThe aftermarket spring in the middle of the photo is a 14kg load steel spring, it's OD is 27mm, wire thickness is 2mm and length of around 125mm.
The narrower aftermarket spring at the bottom of the photo is a 8kg load steel spring, with OD of 22mm, wire thickness of 1.7mm and same length of around 125mm.
Whether a spring or spring combination works well is based on the total accumulated spring load. For example, a single strong spring would naturally still produce more spring power than nesting 2 or 3 weaker springs that might just add up to lower strength. So it's all a matter of testing what's suitable for your usage.
There is also the issue of the users ability to prime a Longshot with very strong springs. It's not much use installing super strong springs if an individual can't even prime it properly. :)
Could I use a spring from a pen to replace the trigger catch spring? The spring is 1 and a half cm long and its diameter is 3 mm. Or should i use one that is two cm long and has a diameter of 4 mm. The wire thickness is the same for each but the second has more coils.
ReplyDeleteJohn,
ReplyDeleteSure, you can try using pen springs to replace the trigger catch spring if they can fit. Just test them out seperately and see which one is more effective.
Could I use rubber instead of foam to cusion the plunger?
ReplyDeleteJohn,
ReplyDeleteYup, you can try using rubber to pad the plunger too, just make sure the rubber is soft enough to absorb the impacts effectively.
I did the air restriction removal like you told me, but now when ever i put a six dart clip into it, it basically only shoots the dart like 5 ft but when i don't use the magazine and kinda just fit the dart into the barrel, it shoots ok. can you help, Thanks!!!
ReplyDeleteDannie,
ReplyDeleteOne of the reasons why you might be experiencing that issue when using clips (but not when the foam darts are manually loaded) may be due to your pop-up blocker plate not functioning properly. Its the black plastic piece just in front of the blaster's clip entrance.
The pop-up blocker plate enables foam darts to be "blocked" during the chambering process, thereby "pushing" them back into the bolt for the required air-seal for proper firing.
Open up your Longshot again and check that the spring that pushes up the pop-up blocker plate is installed properly and not mis-aligned.
That tiny spring usually tends to shift out-of-place whenever the blaster casing is opened.
I did these mods - but I didn't install a new spring. Now I can pull the bolt back repeatedly after I cock the gun. Any Ideas what I have done wrong? Thanks!
ReplyDeleteMuchachos,
ReplyDeleteIf you can prime your Longshot properly, yet the bolt can still be moved to and fro, then it just means your bolt lock has been disabled.
You might have forgotten to put back the black plastic piece that is directly behind the bottom of the plunger, or perhaps that part is mis-aligned.
Anyways, disabling the bolt lock is actually one of the popular additional side mods for Longshots (most modders just remove the black plastic piece), as it allows users to open the bolt even after it is primed so that its easier to clear jams or load a dart in manually.
If i used styrofoam (the kind from those restaurant takeout boxes) to cushion the plunger would it work and also, will the gun still eventually break?
ReplyDeleteIf I used some fbr or a ripped up nerf dart to cushion the bolt would it work, what do you use to cushion the bolt, should I glue the foam onto the base of the plunger, and should I put cushioning on both sides of the base of the plunger (top+bottom).
ReplyDeleteOscar,
ReplyDeleteStyrofoam isn't so suitable as it tends to break into bits after repeated impacts, thereby clogging up the plunger and bolt.
Foam Backer Rod (FBR) can be used, just cut layers to fit the plunger head to ensure sufficient impact coverage.
For my modded longshots, i use sections of impact absorbing dense bumper foam that can be found at hardware stores (usually used for padding table corners). They are cut to size and attached to the plunger head with double sided adhesive tape.
I've got a question. I've modded my longshot no problems, done every step you posted except for the charging handle easy release and the deadspace elimination. The charging handle is easy to remove. My longshot now gets around 55-60 feet held parallel to ground at my shoulder height(I'm a kid 158cm tall in year6).
ReplyDeleteWhat if I used memory foam (cut 1/2 cm thick)to cushion the plunger would that work?
ReplyDeletesorry for asking so many questions, but how much range would be added if I only sealed the hole and put in a stronger spring without removing the air restrictor because I'm scared my padding (fbr) might not be strong enough (I can't find those dense bumper foam pads you mentioned)
ReplyDeleteHow big is the plunger base? ( I need to know how big FBR should I get for padding.)
ReplyDeletehowy77,
ReplyDeleteYour question wasn't too clear, but i assume you're asking about the modded range? Well, it also depends on the aftermarket spring that you are using.
For my modded Longshots, i use 14kg load aftermarket springs, which provide good power yet still okay for me to prime. Priming of such stronger springs depends on individual strength though.
Oscar,
ReplyDeleteMemory foam could work too... just make sure its not the type that flakes or shreds easily. You'll just have to test and see if it works.
The plunger head is around 35mm or so in diameter.
If you do all the mods but do not remove the Air Restrictor (AR) the air flow will still be limited. I've tested leaving ARs intact before and the modded performance seems to be reduced as much as 40%-50% of what it should be without ARs.
The most significant step in the modding process comes from the AR removal, after which the performance of all the other mods can be maximised.
Do you think that it is possible to do a brass barrel replacement but not do a brass breech?
ReplyDeletehowy77,
ReplyDeleteIts possible... but if its not part of an air-tight brass breech design, a stand-alone brass barrel would just create additional friction and resistance which will slow down the foam dart. So it'll result in shorter range.
This is because the foam dart already starts losing power and velocity once it leaves the plastic bolt.
A fully air-tight brass breech system is required to provide efficient and constant power behind the foam dart all the way through until it leaves the brass barrel.
If I used a stock furyfire spring with the stock longshot spring how much range would it
ReplyDeleteincrease?
Also, is there a specific name for those foam pads so I know what name to look for at the hardware store?
Oscar,
ReplyDeleteHmmm... i've not tested that spring combination before. Though i guess the improvement probably wouldn't be as significant 'cos the Furyfire stock spring isn't very strong anyways and its alot shorter too.
If you don't have access to proper sized and higher spring load aftermarket springs, try to see if you can get the stock spring from a Big Bad Bow and add it to the stock Longshot spring, i've tested that combination before and experienced good power improvements.
The foam padding that i use are generic foam bumper padding that is commonly used for padding furniture (ie. table corners or chairs), they are designed to absorb impact.
You can find those types of foam padding at most hardware stores or even supermarkets.
Since friction in the barrel and chamber would affect projectile performance, would it be a good idea to lubricate the barrel with graphite powder- it's dry, very fine and doesn't attract moisture or dirt.
ReplyDeleteI recently got my Longshot and, Is it possible to take out the AR and block the Air Release, without having to Padd the Plunger and, Change the Spring?
ReplyDeletejohn,
ReplyDeleteYou can try... see if it does help. But there would still be resistance and back pressure acting on the front of the foam dart when there is no more propelling force behind it. So either way, the velocity and range is still going to be affected.
Nerfzik,
ReplyDeleteWell, you could do those mods without padding the plunger head or adding a stronger spring.
But note that without padding the plunger head, the repeated direct impacts between the plunger head and bolt will eventually result in broken components.
So it is highly recommended to apply padding to the Longshot plunger head during the modding process.
hey sg, is it okay if i just did the ar and the padding. or would i have to also do the springs too?
ReplyDeletedarthdean,
ReplyDeleteSure, just doing the AR removal and padding will offer some improvements too.
Replacing the stock spring with a stronger spring will simply help add even more power and range in the shots.
how far does it shoot with just AR removal and blocking the air release but no spring replacement
ReplyDeletep.s. is it true that they're not making longshots anymore
playstationwiisixty,
ReplyDeleteJust AR removal and sealing the air release hole should at least add around 10-15ft over the stock range.
Imho, the really significant improvements only start occurring when stronger springs are used.
Yup, Longshots (in their current form) are now out-of-production.
Can you use styrofoam for the deadspace mod, and as plungerpadding? Also, what significance does adding another o-ring have?
ReplyDeletebioman_shah,
ReplyDeleteStyrofoam isn't so suitable as it tends to break into bits after repeated impacts, thereby clogging up the plunger and bolt.
Foam Backer Rod (FBR) or foam sheets can be used, just shape them to fit into the bolt's deadspace to fill it up.
Adding another proper sized o-ring can help enhance the plunger seal, but do be careful not to end up with an o-ring combination that is so thick that it ends up slowing down the plunger movement instead.
Thanks, is foam backer rod an effective plunger padding?
ReplyDeletebioman_shah
ReplyDeleteFoam Backer Rod (FBR) can be used for plunger padding too, just make sure its not the kind of FBR that breaks or shreds into pieces easily under repeated impact.
The foam padding that i use are foam bumper padding that is commonly used for padding furniture (ie. table corners or chairs), they are designed to absorb impact.
You can find those types of foam padding at most hardware stores or even supermarkets.
I can't believe I didn't notice this site sooner. It's been a great help.
ReplyDeleteDo you bother to reinforce your boltsleds? If so, what materials do you use?
ok thanks, all your mod guides have been very usefull to me.
ReplyDeleteThe write-ups on this website are really helpful. I can't believe I didn't find this site sooner.
ReplyDeleteI tried the dead space removal by chopping up a stock dart, but all that did was limit the airflow and kill my longshot's ranges.
Durka Durka,
ReplyDeleteFor bolt sled reinforcements, i've tested custom making steel rods and plates shaped to bolt and/or epoxy to the bolt sled stress points. So far, those attempts have worked well.
I found that one of the best solutions is to use shotgun grip priming designs with dual arms that both act in tandem to pull back the bolt sled.
http://modworks.blogspot.com/2010/05/nerf-longshot-mod-shotgun-grip.html
This helps to balance out the load on both sides of the bolt sled during the priming action, thereby reducing uneven load stress (one of the common causes of bolt sled breakage, especially when using stronger aftermarket springs).
For deadspace elimination, it should not limit your airflow, unless your filler material is somehow blocking a clear channel of air from moving to the bolt. Range should never decrease after that mod is done. Check it again.
I have made all the necessary modifications to my longshot. I would like to know how long it will take before the plunger head will fracture with stress.
ReplyDeleteSrikar,
ReplyDeleteWell, there isn't any fixed duration on the parts durability. It varies from blaster to blaster.
It all depends on your modding quality, the materials you use to mod it with, and the amount of usage you put into it... and it also depends on abit of luck too. :)
srikar
ReplyDeletei think there was some aluminium plunger head you can get... not sure though.
I will just look in a local hardware store for that. Thanks :D
ReplyDeleteCould i use trimmed make up remover pads for the plunger padding instead of foam, or will they be to fat up or something
ReplyDeletebuilderman,
ReplyDeleteI guess you could try, it's all a matter of making adjustments based on the materials you are using.
Though i'd still recommend using foam padding that are designed to absorb impact. :)
Thanks SG, i'll see what i can find.
ReplyDeleteI tried it but still got the loud crack sound so im going to get the foam stuff.
ReplyDeleteP.S. the Bolt keeps jamming because the bolt lock doesent sit far back enough, what should i do?
builderman,
ReplyDeleteYou can try simply removing the bolt lock, for modded Longshots it'll help solve some jamming issues.
Do you have to use compressable foam for the deadspace elimination mod?
ReplyDeletebtw what colour do you suggest I paint my longshot?
Brandon,
ReplyDeleteMy usage of foam to fill the deadspace is just an example, you can use any other suitable material to fill in the deadspace. Experiment abit and try alternative materials.
Painting your Longshot? Any colour other than black, show some creativity with other colour combinations. :)
I have seen some "modification springs" on ebay that are supposed to give ranges of upto 100 feet with no other mods, should I buy one of these or would I e better off buying one from a local store.
ReplyDeleteHayke,
ReplyDeleteWell, from my experience, i'd view sellers of springs who quote 100ft ranges from just a spring change alone as highly dubious.
No doubt there will be improvements in power and range, but getting 100ft ranges from a Longshot requires much more than just a spring change.
Most people consider quoted ranges as based on blasters fired parallel-to-ground (flat ranges), but some sellers measure their ranges firing from a blaster aimed at an angle to increase their range claims.
Anyways, its common for sellers to "inflate" their claims to sell their product so don't take what they quote too literally.
Do you reccommend reinforcing the bolt sled on a longshot that has done all those mods but a spring replacement, or is it unnessesary?
ReplyDeleteBrandon,
ReplyDeleteIf a Longshot is still using the stock spring, then its not necessary to reinforce the bolt sled, as there isn't any additional load stress on it.
Hey, could you help me? I had modded my longshot, removing AR and taping up the longshot's bolt air release. Whenever I cocked my longshot and fired, there would always be a gust of air coming out. I thought it was okay, and I loaded my clip in. However, when I cocked and fired, the dart did not fly. Instead it just slide out of the barrel and dropped to the ground. The dart didn't travel at all. I would appreciate it if you could help me. Thanks (:
ReplyDeleteShaMeel,
ReplyDeleteIt seems like you have either an air leak in the plunger or bolt, or a loose foam dart fit.
To test, manually slot a foam dart deep into the bolt, prime it then fire.
If the foam dart shoots out properly, that means the issue was with the chambering of the foam dart, it could be the pop-up blocker plate not pushing the dart back into the bolt far enough, or the bolt has somehow become too wide for the foam darts, causing a loose fit. Check those parts to troubleshoot.
If the foam dart does not fire out properly, then there is probably an air leak in the plunger or bolt. Check those parts for cracks or gaps.
I realised that my pop-up blocker plate did not "pop-up" when I cocked the longshot due to the loose spring. No wonder the dart could not fire. Thanks alot! :D I really appreciated your help. Happy National Day as well :D
ReplyDeletewhat real risks are there to modding? what if i break my long shot?
ReplyDeleteHenry.Wait,
ReplyDeleteModifications to blasters will increase the wear and tear on the parts, so naturally the parts will have a higher chance to break when used.
Only modify your blasters if you are okay with the possibility of the blasters breaking. If you can't afford to break them, then don't modify them. Keep them in stock condition. :)
just modded mine.. omg it rocks :D.. walmart in canada were having a sale on longshots so i picked up 5 of them. i jacked the spring from one of my nightfinders. thanks for the tutorial. now to make some stefans tomorrow
ReplyDeleteI modified my longshot, the usual AR removal and added a spring, and i've noticed that the bolt tube that chambers darts now sticks out just far enough to block the efficient loading of clips. is this normal, and is there any way to easily fix it besides the obvious trimming of the "lips" on either side of the end of the bolt?
ReplyDeletePS: i have the same problem in my recon, but i've always assumed it was because of the padding i added to the base of the plunger
PPS: maybe i just suck at modding or range testing, but i have also not noticed a huge difference in the range with and without the AR, when my two springs are both added....
hey while doing a mod i lost the black piece used to hold the plunger before firing is there any suitable replacement? the pice looks like the one in the beck of the recon.
ReplyDelete