tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post214681998002979922..comments2024-03-13T18:19:13.488+08:00Comments on Mod Works: Nerf Longshot "Brass Breech" Mod Update!SG Nerfhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03136329934823654372noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-59369141176369412212013-01-17T21:48:45.438+08:002013-01-17T21:48:45.438+08:00Thanks, I'll give it a go. I think I'll go...Thanks, I'll give it a go. I think I'll go easy on the tightening rings to start with and see.<br /><br />I realise that they won't be as good as using Stefans, but the game type I play requires stock darts at the moment.lborostudenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13088715499631122534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-77495549786620273702013-01-17T15:22:50.842+08:002013-01-17T15:22:50.842+08:00lborostudent,
They should be usable too, just tes...lborostudent,<br /><br />They should be usable too, just test and adjust accordingly... but do note that Elite foam darts still do swerve and curve in flight (especially when used in modded blasters with more power).SG Nerfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03136329934823654372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-3115189548017342592013-01-17T00:24:41.373+08:002013-01-17T00:24:41.373+08:00Do you know if / how well this will work with elit...Do you know if / how well this will work with elite darts? I heard somewhere that they're a slightly snugger fit than the older streamlines, but I want to use them as they generally perform better.lborostudenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13088715499631122534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-46374379480106324162012-09-07T14:20:22.094+08:002012-09-07T14:20:22.094+08:00Anonymous,
If you are using my brass breech mod g...Anonymous,<br /><br />If you are using my brass breech mod guide that uses half-pipes in both the brass barrel and bolt, then you have to cut the quarter-pipe design on both too.SG Nerfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03136329934823654372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-40597140540855141092012-09-07T06:38:05.895+08:002012-09-07T06:38:05.895+08:00Do you just cut the barrel, or the barrel and bolt...Do you just cut the barrel, or the barrel and bolt?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-86400245888048919672012-08-25T23:13:00.782+08:002012-08-25T23:13:00.782+08:00Anonymous,
I usually use standard cut-off discs ...Anonymous,<br /><br />I usually use standard cut-off discs (ie. Black & Decker brand, 15/16" x 0.025", RT1014), the RPM speed i run my Dremel on is around 14,000-18,000 to cut brass.<br /><br />I guess you could just use any suitable cut-off discs that are designed to cut/grind metals too.SG Nerfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03136329934823654372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-6516667129566344282012-08-25T22:44:08.364+08:002012-08-25T22:44:08.364+08:00What number cutting and sanding wheel do you use a...What number cutting and sanding wheel do you use at what rpm?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-63538933368594250622012-07-02T18:14:41.244+08:002012-07-02T18:14:41.244+08:00Thanks so much for your help!Thanks so much for your help!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-71235835060272063892012-07-02T11:46:24.289+08:002012-07-02T11:46:24.289+08:00Anonymous,
I would still recommend 9/16" bra...Anonymous,<br /><br />I would still recommend 9/16" brass barrels with tightening rings. <br /><br />The tightening rings allow narrower streamlines to be held securely in the barrel before firing. <br /><br />Honestly... when you eventually move on to using better custom foam darts and stefans, you'll be glad you used 9/16" brass barrels. :)SG Nerfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03136329934823654372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-80445110062034047592012-07-02T11:19:32.234+08:002012-07-02T11:19:32.234+08:00How about just with streamlines?
17/32 or 9/16 (w...How about just with streamlines?<br /><br />17/32 or 9/16 (with tightening rings)<br /><br />Does tightening rings basically make a 9/16 into a 17/32Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-28345023954708740952012-07-01T14:46:09.606+08:002012-07-01T14:46:09.606+08:00Anonymous,
To keep your ammo options open, you sh...Anonymous,<br /><br />To keep your ammo options open, you should use 9/16" brass barrels, as it can have the capability to use wider OD stefans too.SG Nerfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03136329934823654372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-59501365497275976022012-07-01T14:13:03.315+08:002012-07-01T14:13:03.315+08:00If I'm going to fire mostly streamlines but ma...If I'm going to fire mostly streamlines but maybe one day some stefans should I use the 9/16 or 17/32 barrel?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-10900453506989964882011-12-30T19:31:34.441+08:002011-12-30T19:31:34.441+08:00Taurich,
So far, with my current 14kg spring load...Taurich,<br /><br />So far, with my current 14kg spring load setup, the 9" of effective brass barrel (3" is taken up by the half/quarter pipe section) seems to be an ideal barrel length.<br /><br />It should still work well with a full 12" brass barrel length too, though any longer and there might start to be too much resistance.<br /><br />Barrel length also depends on the amount of air pressure propelling the foam dart, an even stronger spring load could create the higher air pressure necessary to push the foam dart through longer barrels, so you could test it out and see. <br /><br />Note that you should avoid having the bare brass barrel sticking out of the front, as that can be a hazard in games due to the sharp edge of the exposed brass tube.SG Nerfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03136329934823654372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-41103996100443047922011-12-30T18:49:18.885+08:002011-12-30T18:49:18.885+08:00Heya, question on the fully modded style of longsh...Heya, question on the fully modded style of longshot. <br />What sort of effect would increasing the length of the barrel have? I'd like some of that brass barrel sticking out of the housing for cosmetic value, but if it's going to hurt performance I guess it's not such a good ideaTaurichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05447535126179776024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-57187857114294124982011-07-01T13:56:56.933+08:002011-07-01T13:56:56.933+08:00L0VELESS,
You can get K&S Engineering brand b...L0VELESS,<br /><br />You can get K&S Engineering brand brass tubes from hobby or craft shops. You'll just have to shop around to find them.<br /><br />Alternatively, you could also check online hobby craft sites to find them too.SG Nerfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03136329934823654372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-19880738220289374472011-07-01T06:11:10.353+08:002011-07-01T06:11:10.353+08:00¿Where can I get brass tubes?¿Where can I get brass tubes?L0VELESShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11989198481427228574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-64725668468860536152011-05-19T20:57:21.916+08:002011-05-19T20:57:21.916+08:00Vince,
Sorry, i don't do mods for others, tha...Vince,<br /><br />Sorry, i don't do mods for others, that's why i post up mod guides so everyone can use them for reference and mod on their own time.<br /><br />The brass breech mod is not too complex if you have already completed the basic Longshot mods, just take your time to work though the build process and it can be done. :)SG Nerfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03136329934823654372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-87795473058913290392011-05-19T18:20:40.435+08:002011-05-19T18:20:40.435+08:00If I flew all the way to singapore with my longsho...If I flew all the way to singapore with my longshot, would you do the brassbreech mod for cash? I'm confident enough with the mods in your first guide, but the breech mod is a bit more work involved :PVincehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17570575704619019854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-48347911264871926582011-01-12T18:40:49.730+08:002011-01-12T18:40:49.730+08:00Athanasios,
The Recon is limited by its small rev...Athanasios,<br /><br />The Recon is limited by its small reverse plunger volume, even after modding, it simply does not have enough air volume to propel foam darts as far as blasters with larger direct plunger volumes (ie. Longshots or Stampedes).<br /><br />Aluminium parts on their own don't increase range, they just help prevent those parts from breaking.<br /><br />The maximum parallel-to-ground (PTG) range i have gotten so far with a Recon after modding with AR removal, better o-ring seal, 11kg load aftermarket spring etc, is around 50ft... modded further with a proper brass breech, it improves slightly to 60ft. Thats the limit.SG Nerfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03136329934823654372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-90062681326512331052011-01-12T17:53:34.622+08:002011-01-12T17:53:34.622+08:00What's that max range a Recon can obtain? Wit...What's that max range a Recon can obtain? With/without alu parts?<br /><br />AthanasiosUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18399128192397306713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-24195563243882188172010-11-17T13:56:02.594+08:002010-11-17T13:56:02.594+08:00Zach,
Well, i've not worked with a band saw b...Zach,<br /><br />Well, i've not worked with a band saw before so i guess you'll just have to test and see if it is suitable for precise cutting of the brass sections. <br /><br />The 1ft length of brass barrel goes into the original plastic barrel far enough so that when the breech closes, the brass bolt can still sleeve onto it, you will have to adjust all the parts to match properly.<br /><br />Craft foam could be used for plunger padding too, just layer the thickness if necessary to create more cushioning to absorb the plunger impacts.<br /><br />Yes, due to the higher dart velocity of the foam dart when fired from a brass breeched Longshot, a close range hit will be painful (and may leave a welt or bruise if the foam dart tip is not properly padded), so you must make sure not to fire at anyone at close range or towards people who are not wearing proper shatterproof safety eyewear.<br /><br />As indicated in the mod guide, with all the mods and brass breech system done properly, it should be able to fire to around 90-100ft parallel-to-ground. With custom calibrated foam darts, its possible to achieve up to 110ft ranges too.SG Nerfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03136329934823654372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-46252041060767318972010-11-17T12:04:12.353+08:002010-11-17T12:04:12.353+08:00Ok, another question just came to mind. In your ba...Ok, another question just came to mind. In your basic mod guide you mention the padding. Do you think 3/16" foam core like you can get at many craft stores and Meijer or Walmart would work?<br />Also, if I were to shoot someone, like my sister or cousin, or potentially my roommate (no plans forming), would it hurt at close range with the heavier spring, the increased air flow, and stock streamline darts?<br />And finally, I don't know if it is in one of your guides and I just missed it, but how far will my longshot fire on average once I remove the AR, plug the OV, put in a heavy spring, and insert the brass breech? Thanks muchUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652196155532304850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-72430874861028524342010-11-17T11:52:01.997+08:002010-11-17T11:52:01.997+08:00Hey, I have looked at your modding guide for gener...Hey, I have looked at your modding guide for general mods, the shotgun grip, and this brass breech. I plan on doing it over Thanksgiving break (immature college student). My roommates got Mavericks they want to mod over break, so I figure I'll mod the longshot I already have and kick their collective butts. I do have a question about the brass cutting though. I don't have a dremel, so could I use a band-saw and get the same quality cut? Also, you mention that you use a 1' section of 9/16" pipe in the first step. How far does this brass go into the original barrel, or does it just stop once it passes through the breech and stop at the barrel? Thanks.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652196155532304850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-36369291386175293052010-09-04T01:24:41.919+08:002010-09-04T01:24:41.919+08:00aj,
Like i mentioned, 17/32" brass barrels h...aj,<br /><br />Like i mentioned, 17/32" brass barrels have less options in dart usage, it tends to be less "forgiving" when it comes to dart fit. <br /><br />Stock streamline darts can sometimes be too tight in 17/32" brass barrels (it could be due to production batch, environment conditions etc).<br /><br />Thats why the majority of modders use 9/16" brass barrels for more dart type options, and use tightening rings or larger OD foam darts or stefans that fit those barrels better.<br /><br />Your idea of nesting 17/32" brass barrel part way in the 9/16" brass barrel could work, just test it out and note down the ranges to compare and see if its a suitable solution for your blaster setup.SG Nerfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03136329934823654372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2872518359543654640.post-8274491589363990362010-09-03T09:48:11.987+08:002010-09-03T09:48:11.987+08:00Great. thanks for all your help. just 1 last quest...Great. thanks for all your help. just 1 last question, my brass arrived today and I put together my breech, I nested the 17/32 in the 9/16 barrel, but when loading a stock dart it would not go all the way in the 17/32, because the fit was too tight. Im planning to fix this by putting the 17/32 about half a dart length into the 9/16, so when loaded the dart will be half in 9/16 brass and half in 17/32. Will this work or will it decrease ranges?ajhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07119163597793545850noreply@blogger.com